To Dance or Not to Dance?

We’re fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance.” – Japanese Proverb

The other day a friend and I were talking about a conflict that’s arisen in her multi-decades marriage. She’s taken up ballroom dancing and loves it. It engages her mind and body in a way that feels like something generative and renewing. She loves studying the movements and the thrill of putting it all together.

Her husband doesn’t have any interest in doing it with her but also has a problem with her dancing with other partners. At times the thought of her dancing with someone else makes him feel queasy. He wants her to quit.

Before I continue, I must interject that these are both very smart, well-intended, committed and gracious people. This particular conflict occurs amidst the backdrop of a loving marriage, not as a crack in something that is already falling apart.

As my friend has progressed with ballroom dancing, she’s learned a great deal – but there have also been injuries that come with learning something new and moving in different ways (usually minor). Every time she has an injury, she wonders if this is a sign that she should quit or if she is learning to push through adversity. And every time it renews the conflict in her marriage. To push through both an injury and the resistance of having her husband against the idea is more than twice as hard but the idea of her hanging up her dancing shoes makes her feel sad and a little robbed of joy.

This is where things become muddy for me. First as someone who has been single for over a decade, I am sorely out of practice at compromise. But mostly because it seems to me that this conversation, and maybe most conversations where we can’t be supportive of what someone else wants to pursue with good intentions, are about something else. Unresolved conflict, old stories, wounds that haven’t healed, insecurity?

When I look at the situation, I can see the ripple effect that comes from one person forcing another to quit something they love. But it’s of course far more complex with that when you have more than two decades of history. It seems like my friend and her husband are already dancing but somehow have gotten out of sync.

So how do they find the wisdom to get back in step?

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38 thoughts on “To Dance or Not to Dance?

  1. That’s a tough one, Wynne! We could “argue” either side. As you said, not dancing robs her of joy. On the flip side, is it right for your friend to do something she knows brings pain (even minor pain) to her significant other? I truly don’t know either in terms of rights or wrongs. But I tend to think you’re correct in that somewhere, buried deeply in a psyche, is a hurt or insecurity. I will say that to me, “queasy” sounds like jealousy. Ergo (that’s a simultaneously horrible and fun word – I’d forgotten about it until just this instant 😆), it seems to point back to some feeling of inadequacy in him.

    It’s difficult to be the friend in these situations, when you don’t know what to say, but I’m glad she has you. 🤍

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    1. Ergo — a wonderful word! And thank you for your lovely words. You say it so well – we can argue both sides and then it just comes down to being there as we all do our necessary work, right? Thank you, Kendra!

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    2. I agree that she’s already a step ahead in resolving any difficulty when she has a friend like you, Wynne!

      Your quote reminded me of Shaw’s “If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance.” And I think there’s some hidden wisdom in the quote: perhaps this challenge of she-wants-to-dance-and-he-doesn’t-want-her-to is an a skeleton of an opportunity in disguise. Maybe there’s an opportunity to find out what prompted her at this point to seek out dancing? What prompts him to not want to join in and to not want her to have partners in this joy of hers? Perhaps there’s an underlying challenge that this “skeleton” will enable them to uncover and address, and continue with a happy marriage?

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  2. Such an interesting post! I was in the middle of a ‘couple’s situation’ once where HE wanted to dance and SHE became hostile about it (also not sharing an interest in ballroom — but it was the tango that really got her ire up). For her, the whole of it — all the dancing – was too intimate and she couldn’t believe her longtime spouse didn’t see it that way. In the end, he moved on to rock climbing (right up your adventure alley, Wynne) because he was really looking for movement and a challenge and didn’t give one wit about his wife’s (to him) bizarre intimacy concerns. To please her, he hung up his dancing shoes – swapping them for climbing and hiking gear. Still one of my favorite compromise stories because of how honest they were with each other. And…as sweet Kendra just said, how nice that your friend has you to process with. It’s the best! 😉

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    1. Oh, that’s a great story, Vicki! Yes, I’d take rock climbing any day (you certainly have my number).

      But I love what you say “one of my favorite compromise stories because of how honest they were with each other.” Yes, that seems to be one of the deep truths here about that honesty.

      Thank you for weighing in with this fun solution!

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  3. Another thought-provoking post, Wynne; thank you for sharing it with us. I have the intuitive feeling that the broader issue of your post (whether about dancing or something else) will resonate with a lot of couples. It seems to me, that “this” is the ground where there is opportunity for tremendous growth for the persons involved. I agree whole heartedly with the following that you shared: “But mostly because it seems to me that this conversation, and maybe most conversations where we can’t be supportive of what someone else wants to pursue with good intentions, are about something else. Unresolved conflict, old stories, wounds that haven’t healed, insecurity?”

    You and I know that I share a great deal about spirituality, but I also feel that this is one situation where more knowledge about it could serve a purpose. It seems to me that both positions, the woman’s and the man’s, are rooted in ego–one that desires to dance, the other who is fearful about it. I’m not saying that I have always been able to live from this perspective, but when we ask: What would love do in such a situation?, I think love would give–not try to restrict or limit activities in a futile effort to feel secure. And I believe this also goes for the woman involved. Is it her ego that needs to dance? For both partners, I feel that only they will know.

    Bottom line: Oh, how I wish them love and joy, and a patient growth for both…together. 🙏

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    1. A beautiful and insightful comment, Art. I love that you name that this is ground for tremendous growth – a beautiful way to see it. And naming the egoic needs involved – that’s very rich. And finally, your wish for them is beautiful. Thanks for weighing in!

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  4. What a situation to be in for both sides. It seems that something underlies each respective position, aspects of which are not being fully revealed or discussed with each other. Even in the best of marriages there can be things that are hard to communicate to your partner, but what else is there to do so that this doesn’t become a winner-loser situation.

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  5. Well, my husband and I took dancing classes together and it was very fun. We danced with other partners and that was okay with us. I would suggest that the husband try it out for a month, maybe separately since she has a leg up so to speak. It is great exercise, all my dancing friends look ten years younger than they are. Men are often afraid of embarrassment because leading a partner puts a lot of pressure on them. If they dance together, she’d need not to give advice.

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  6. When trust ‘benches’ insecurity’s jealousy and ego, the dance can be enjoyed no matter who the partner.

    P.S. If that’s your multi-decade marriage friends in the picture Wynne, I’d say whatever tune they’ve been dancing together to has them aging we’ll 🙂

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    1. Funny about the picture. Nope, not them. 🙂

      But I love how simply you put it – “When trust ‘benches’ insecurity’s jealousy and ego, the dance can be enjoyed no matter who the partner.” Beautiful!! I hope we all can get there. 🙂 ❤

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  7. It’s true your last sentence “It seems like my friend and her husband are already dancing but somehow have gotten out of sync.” Maybe they could find something they can do together. And she can continue dancing. Very difficult, but if they love each other, as it seems, they will find a solution, together.

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  8. This is a very tough one! I’d say the wife should get to dance and the husband may be a tad insecure and jealous here. Maybe the wife can take him to one of these dance lessons and he can observe what happens and see for himself that it’s just harmless fun! Good luck finding resolutions to this!

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  9. Interesting dilemma. I saw a similar situation recently in which the therapist pointed out that if it wasn’t “the dance lessons”, it would be “the church meetings” or the “bingo nights” – in other words, the insecurity is on the part of the spouse complaining – a control issue.
    Thinking of my own marriage; before meeting my husband I was taking salsa lessons. He wasn’t interested in salsa, so ballroom dancing became our compromise. We had years of enjoyment from those lessons. On my part, I took golf lessons so I could join him on the course.

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    1. That’s such a good point about if it isn’t this, it’d be something else! Love that you both did ballroom dancing and you did golf. Those are such lovely compromises. A great example of how it should work!

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  10. I dunno that I have any advice in particular on this particular issue, but I will say that I live by the saying: don’t be a pawn in someone else’s game. As such I’m not sure who is gaming whom, but some game is going on with this couple. Time for them to review the rules?

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  11. I definitely don’t think your friend should quit dance. I would be outraged at my friend if they were in this situation and decided to quit. The issue is her partner’s issue, not hers so ideally it shouldn’t affect her but then again life and relationships are messy. I think he needs to explore where this issue stems from and address it or accept being uncomfortable with it. But I do think she needs to be involved in this process, support him, and be empathetic. Maybe this would be best to work out with a marriage counselor to mediate. But what really comes to mind is I’m assuming his main issue is jealousy or insecurity of another man as her partner, if that’s the case could it possibly be solved with her having a gay male dance partner or a female partner?

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    1. Oh, what interesting suggestions with a gay or female partner. You are great at thinking outside the box. And I love how you underscore she needs to support the process of looking into what’s underneath this with empathy. What a lovely response – thank you!

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  12. Ugh that’s so hard. I’m such an advocate of happy so I do feel like if it’s making her happy, he should really find a way to accept it. I do understand the jealousy factor because I tend to get that way at times. And it sounds like a good compromise would be if he just tried dancing for a month and just see. Maybe he’ll love it! But if he hasn’t even tried, it’s not fair to set parameters. He can’t have both sides, he’s gotta give a bit. And she’s not doing anything harmful, it’s something that makes her happy. And love should support that! 💖

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    1. I like your versions of love and happy, Libby! Yes, there is definitely an ideal on both sides – for what love should do and support and what happy looks like that’s not quite getting met and I like how you’ve stated both sides. Here’s hoping they can get back on the right foot! 🙂 ❤

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  13. When I got to the end of the post, I didn’t expect that open ending! I thought you were going to share the solution they found, but this ending makes the topic so much more thought-provoking! I love it! This is an interesting problem. Personally, I think no partner (spouse, boyfriend, whoever) should have any say in what hobby you decide to pick up. It brought to mind a good friend of mine who has been with the same boyfriend for about 10 years. They both have professional careers and I know they are in a faithful relationship. Her hobby is pole dancing and she often shares photos on social media doing crazy tricks on the pole in comfortable, however scant, clothing. I think many boyfriends might not be OK with that, and I love that this has never been a reason for them to suspend their relationship. I don’t know what kind of conversations they may have had behind closed doors about the subject, but whatever was said between them, she has never stopped doing what she loves and sharing it with her friends. It’s not fair to take away something that gives your partner joy.

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    1. I’m laughing. Yes, open-ended and I’m so glad that you chimed in. What an interesting scenario for your friend, Ash. I would think pole-dancing could be definitely good territory for jealousy but I love how you describe they handle it. And I’ve heard pole dancing is incredibly athletic! What a great example!

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  14. My first reaction: He needs to find a hobby of his own!

    But then we need to know what he does do on his own…maybe he has a blokes shed with all the tools and builds things, restores things. That he doesn’t want “her” anywhere near.

    Or does he play a sport of some kind that has nothing to do with her..

    There is always another side to many couples arguments.

    (I’m on my own now, so whatever I do, I’ve no one breathing down my neck)

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  15. I think it’s a shame that her husband is blinded by what I see as petty jealousy. If he loves her and wants her to be happy (as I trust he does), he should either step up to the plate and dance with her himself, or at the aveojaldjlkja;lekjiaj;ldjl;kjlkdjljjelknl;knsklrjl;jsijldjkflndlk (sorry – Tara leaned in to kiss me just now). Ahem. As I was saying, or at the very least, not complain if she chooses to dance with another man. If he’s secure enough in their marriage, he shouldn’t care. Just my two cents.

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  16. On a somewhat lighter note, my husband and I took dancing lessons together with the hope that it would bring us closer together. In the end it only drove us further apart because we kept stepping on one another’s toes—literally and figuratively. I guess that sometimes we just need to dance to our own drummer. Lessons, lessons, everywhere lessons!

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